Demis Hassabis is the CEO of Google DeepMind. Sergey Brin is the co-founder of Google. The two leading tech executives join Alex Kantrowitz for a live interview at Google’s IO developer conference to discuss the frontiers of AI research. Tune in to hear their perspective on whether scaling is tapped out, how reasoning techniques have performed, what AGI actually means, the potential for an intelligence explosion, and much more. Tune in for a deep look into AI’s cutting edge featuring two executives building it. Chapters: 00:00 Intro & Welcome 01:30 Frontier Models Headroom 03:00 Scale vs Algorithm Debate 04:30 Data-Center Demand & Chips 06:00 DeepThink Reasoning Paradigm 08:00 Defining & Timing AGI 11:00 AlphaEvolve Self-Improvement 13:30 Why Brin Came Back to Google 15:30 Project Astra & Visual Agents 18:30 Smart Glasses Lessons from Google Glass 21:30 Veo 3 & Training-Data Quality 24:00 Lightning Round (Web, AGI Date) 26:30 Are We Living in a Simulation?